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Priscilla's avatar

Hey there, new to this, and open. What's the main benefit to cover up the true earth model?

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Terra Times's avatar

Take a look at this 12 min video to get a good overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMzZrQc_eXI

And this video is longer but gives a good overview with 200 proofs:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XvAwLc7FZm2z/

Cheers

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Lucinda's avatar

Thanks for posting this. I've been following the arguments for so-called "flat earth" since around 2015.

Believe that anyone can seriously debunk the pro-Globe-err indoctrination thru personal observations.

I've observed Eric Dubay's explanation here of how the seasons actually work (in this video clip) out my west-facing kitchen window for over 24 years now. When I first read & then viewed the so-called "flat-earth" seasons model, my mind went BINGO! Our own observations confirm what Dubay says.

Longer Dubay video on the seasons if folks are interested >

How do Seasons Work on Flat Earth? - EricDubay

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ULzZEh02XlK1/

In the Flat-Earth model, the Sun and Moon luminaries revolve around the Earth illuminating like spotlights the areas over which they pass. The Sun's annual corkscrew journey begins at the Tropic of Capricorn on the winter solstice where it makes its fastest and largest circle over and around the Earth. For the next three months every day the Sun slightly narrows its path and slows its speed until by the spring equinox the Sun has spiraled its way from the Tropic of Capricorn to the equator. Then for the next three months again every day the Sun continues to slightly constrict its path and retard its speed until the summer solstice when the Sun makes its smallest, slowest circle around the Tropic of Cancer. Once the Sun reaches this innermost circle, it then begins its opposing, expanding, quickening journey back toward the Tropic of Capricorn. For the next three months every day the Sun slightly widens its path and hastens its speed until the by the autumnal equinox the Sun has spiraled its way from the Tropic of Cancer back to the equator. Then for the next three months again every day the Sun continues to slightly expand its path and increase its speed until the winter solstice when the Sun repeats its largest, fastest circle around the Tropic of Capricorn and the annual corkscrew journey begins again.

11 months, 3 weeks ago

And lots more Dubay here (& elsewhere too) - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/TCgwKoAf3Y9z/

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Terra Times's avatar

Yes. Eric's been at this a long time. A real trail blazer. I'm guessing that you've spent some time on IFERS too. Cheers

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Lucinda's avatar

Terra - Re: IFERS - not really interested in discussing or debating this issue w/others now or spending too much time on it at IFERS - though I don't mind passing along links or videos to others who might be interested in the overall FE issue on social media.

I came to FE through following twitter accts & reading twitter links way back then. Just don't enjoy reading down lots of endless, topical threads anymore on a daily basis like the olden days. Seems too tedious to me overall at this point & substack is plenty enough.

I agree that FE & related issues are central & important research topics in important ways - such as high-lighting governments' (plural) lies, US / NASA's criminality/tax-payer fleecing/FRAUD, revealing the bogus space travel extravaganzas, & exposing the big bang "theory" fairy-tale etc - but just don't want to spend alot of time on it. now.

But it is interesting to check out the updated reference materials/sources & read some of the posts/comments at IFERS whenever I have a little time to explore there. I still prefer bitchute or rumble to watch exposes & documentaries for the most part.

Anyway, there's so much to learn about all kinds of other issues so I don't spend much time on the contributing issues to flat earth discussions. Interested in the FE issue, but not obsessed with the earth's shape or the Antarctica's ice wall or the dome or space, etc.

And, no, folks, the US did not go to the moon & will never, ever go to the moon. The end.

(At least not "physically" but perhaps we do in spirit or in consciousness-ways somehow.)

IFERS - https://ifers.forumotion.com

IFERS - Exposing the 'Global' Conspiracy From Atlantis to Zion. The International Flat Earth Research Society Administrated by President Eric Dubay.

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Terra Times's avatar

I understand. The indoctrination starts so young and is re-enforced so often that the belief in the globe is equal to the belief in the need for oxygen. By this time I will absolutely not debate it with anyone. Like you I did my own research and answered all of my questions that way, plus observation. The web is crawling with paid shills to discourage anyone that gets interested. It's the big lie that collapses many other lies, but at this time almost everyone that's going to realize it has already done so.

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Lucinda's avatar

Well, it's not that no one else will ever figure out FE but it takes a willingness to question orthodoxy & agree most can't see past the near-total indoctrination.

And the power of ridicule as coercion should never be underestimated either. Luckily my survivor's gut sense is stronger than my fear of being laughed about.

Kinda like the deadly-jab. I saw that one coming from a mile or two away. But even lots of good friends & family members were totally taken in by the hoax & nothing I could do or say or show them would convince them otherwise.

Really interested is how/why some are so book-smart yet dumb & others are not necessarily book-smart but are very savvy about the ways of the world. And then some are blazing geniuses of super ability to cut thru the BS so clearly.

How can some see thru bald lies immediately, while others are totally taken in?.

Is it genes, personality, fate, karma, family order, parental treatment or what?

Extended educational system propaganda? These are all rhetorical questions

Wish I could bottle up awareness & critical thinking & sell it to the dumb fuks. HAH I meant folks. ;-)

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Jerome Armstrong's avatar

The Seasons are the Swastika!

Came across a funny quote: "None of this will make any sense if you’re still hung up on the moon being a hunk of rock held in place by a gravitational pull in an ever-expanding vacuum of space, complete with an American flag and Neil Armstrong’s boot print, LOL."

They are lying about EVERYTHING. The quicker its accepted the quicker you'll get over it. However, I like the Concave idea more than a flat one, and the map on the moon of our realm. This latter point, for me, has to be included in any model or understanding. We can see it, very real, in its plasma, about which I just read from Noel Hadley:

The moon is a focused electromagnetic phenomenon called plasma. Another way of stating the obvious is that we live in an electrical realm. Cosmic electromagnetic energy is passed back and forth between the flat motionless plane below and the firmament above, via the Aether. The inner reflection of this electromagnetic energy on our ceiling turns it back down, creating a focus spot point. At this spot, there is an observable fluorescence of the Aether because of the focused cosmic electromagnetic energy. The spot that is created is the moon."

The Sun too, like this, in a Concave model:

https://youtu.be/6H9OPpMXWn4?si=l10n32huvws7xSdJ&t=1260

Other references:

https://youtu.be/1AHpkcpZB1E?si=9hgAW-BLLL6mIRw2

https://youtu.be/ZF-tvbg1b00?si=H1fu9qYFfroD0V4H&t=1251

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Terra Times's avatar

Plausible theories. Once people realize that they don't live on a spinning ball, it opens up their ability to explore what this realm actually is. The challenge right now is sifting out the contrived theories that are created to distract people from the basic truth.

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Lucinda's avatar

The first part of this is obviously true, Tim, as the only time a pilot would ever turn their plane's nose down is to lose altitude deliberately or when they are landing an airplane? Right. Just common sense. ;-) And of course pilots alter/turn their direction sometimes as they fly from one place to another. Haven't you seen this when pilots take off from an airport & go around in big swooping half-circles to head in the correct destination direction? And pilots also fly in big circles too as they wait over airports before landings.

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Terra Times's avatar

turning?

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